GET RID OF THE FU%&ING FRAME. For the MSN people that don't read well, here is a picture:
I've registered a new gmail account from the invitation I received by being an active blogger user. (A bit ironic that I am not using it anymore in favor of typepad.) I don't plan to switch over just yet to gmail, though. Not because of concerns about gmail. From the bit I've used it, it is awesome.
I don't plan to switch, because it isn't actually feasible to switch accounts. It isn't up to me. "ha?", you ask.... read on:
I get "I changed my email" messages from many friends. But, I don't update my address book. And for the people that send those, I have news for you: most people don't. Therefore, changing my email address is more up to my friends and contacts, not me.
For my personal life, I've always used hotmail (for almost a decade now) since I didn't want my personal stuff getting me fired at work. And when i first got it, the reason was that I knew I'd eventually be leaving college. I've started using outlook for my business, but am hesitant to give that to friends, because friends use the cc line too much and I am paranoid of that email getting snagged by the wrong person (eg spammer).
So, I am left with 3 emails to check on a regular basis (4 in total - I don't use yahoo that much.) So, I am hesitant to add a 5th because it'll be another place to check email. I plan to setup plaxo soon and try to get that out to my non-tech friends. But, I don't expect a very high response rate.
So, the purpose of writing this post, is to request a change to hotmail. Since I won't be getting away from using it and they are seeing a competitive threat from google's gmail, I figure now is the time to request the changes I would like. In order to compete with the g[oogle]ones' I assume hotmail will be improving the search functionality, improving the filing system, adding threading, and increasing the "FREE" space allocation, etc.
These are all cool. I hope they do all this. In addition to those, I have one more feature to request.
As mentioned eloquently above: GET RID OF THE F*%&ING FRAME!
If you'd like to help me rally support for this endeavor, copy and paste this into your hotmail account and send it to everyone in your address book with a hotmail account and ask them to add their name to the bottom of it. You can, of course, link to this from your weblog too.
While you are at it, send a copy to firstname.lastname@example.org. Tell them to stop abusing us with their frame.
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Please help me rally MSN to stop abusing our browser windows with the hotmail frame. If you agree with the message below, copy and paste this message, add your name to the bottom of the petition and send it to all the hotmail users you know and email@example.com. If not, I apologize for sending you the message.
What is the hotmail frame? When you click on a link from hotmail and it opens a new window, it opens that window with a frame with the MSN logo. The frame also includes a message that you've left hotmail and instructions on how to return to hotmail. The exact message is: "You are visiting a site outside of Hotmail. To return to Hotmail, close this browser window."
Tell MSN that it is unncessary to have the MSN frame in the top of the window. Tell them that you know that you left hotmail and that you know how to return to hotmail by closing the window and/or by going back to the other browser.
The reasons that I would like you (MSN) to remove this frame is for several reasons.
1. This frame is using screen space that I would prefer to use to view the site that I am visiting.
2. Most sites set a temporary cookie on machine when I log in so that the site remembers that I am logged in when I visit a different page on that site(eg hotornot.com, whizspark.com, forbes premium). Those sites cannott set the cookie if there is frame.
To avoid these problems, I cut and paste links that are sent to me. When I click on a link and go to these sites, I have to copy it, open a new window and paste it. That is 3 steps(7 clicks) that should be one step (1 click). If the email that I've received doesn't actually have the full url in the text, there is no way to avoid the frame. I have to open the window with the frame, right click on properties of the page, copy the url and paste it into the browser.
If the reason for the frame was to simplify things, you failed. It actually makes using hotmail much more difficult.
Please don't think we don't appreciate free hotmail. Although you didn't start hotmail, you made it a stable application and have made it more user friendly over the years, helping to make email free and easy to use for all of us.
Here are some suggestions on how you could change this with minimal problems or confusion to people that may not know how to return to hotmail without the frame (although I think that those people probably wouldn't know how to turn on the computer either).
- Allow us to set a preference in our options which enables us to have the frame or not to have the frame.
- Place a "remove frame" button or link in the frame.
- Place useful content in the frame, such as related internet sites to the one we are browsing, a search bar or even targeted contextual advertising. If you are gonna abuse our window, you might as well have a reason.
For more details on this petition and its originator, click here:
(hotmail users: copy & paste into your browser - if you don't want to see the frame)
Add your name here:
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If you don't wish to send this to your hotmail-using friends, leave your support or derision in the comments.